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Krista Dragomer's avatar

You know I'm here for the uncertainty. That kind of "the game is pretty much over" thinking is still bound up in the myths of modernity, that there are defined outcomes that we humans create and can either progress towards or fail to achieve. But in the composting of these modernist myths, we also have to compost the idea that we get to extract ourselves from the middles of all sorts of relations and save the world. And this is a different kind of grief from we're not going to fix it. It asks us to live into the middle of things, to not turn away from all that is unsolvable, from all that doesn't resolve into beginnings or ends.

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Jason Giaffo's avatar

I understand the point you are making here, but I do not think it is fair to represent the “the game is over” mentality as based purely in cynicism seeking a sense of certainty. I’m sure that does apply to many, but I belong to that mentality and “seeking certainty” does not feel like a representation of my thought process.

Personally, it hurts - a lot - when I have to digest optimism regarding the state of the human condition. It feels like being gaslit by culture at large to be told to live my life as if there is any kind of hope for the future our parents told us we could believe in. At the rate AI is advancing at, whatever comes after us is approaching fast. My own theory is that whats left of humanity following the environmental apocalypse we are hurdling through will leverage AI in development of a wide range new, post-human biological beings. I think we should expect a world that is as alien to us as the modern world would be to the age of the dinosaurs. And I think any visions people entertain of an everlasting humanity (which I am not saying you are promoting) require a lack of recognition of the processes that brought us into being. No biological empire lasted forever. We like to entertain ideas of ourselves as the apex of a process, but we have always been a link in the chain.

My particular theories of what comes next are obviously shortsighted and speculative, but just because you don’t know what the injuries will look like doesn’t mean it’s sensible to say that the boulders on the track “may simply rearrange the train”.

Personally, I require open acknowledgement that “yeah things are as bad as they seem”. Because the lack of openly discussing it makes me feel isolated, like I’m the only one who feels it, like I’m the only one who sees the things I see, like I’m not actually allowed to feel the hurt when I do feel it. I have spent years shoving it under the rug for periods only for it to sneak back up and punch me in the gut, always harder the longer I’ve managed to keep it suppressed. And while you’re actively not advocating for blind optimism either, blind optimism is unfortunately just about the only rebuttal ever offered.

The only antidote for me has been making peace with it - living my life acknowledging that whatever the end is, it is affecting or will be affecting all of us. And I let that inform my life, in the way a Stoic or Buddhist will use the reminder of their own personal mortality - and which your own book may well hit on. It reminds me to treat people with love and kindness. It means I will not be producing any biological children to suffer needlessly - but may still adopt. It means I swiftly terminate any notions of any work of mine “living on” and don’t allow such a motivation to inform my actions. I don’t avoid thinking about the future, but I don’t make plans that rely on a “happy ending” view of of life in 40 years.

It is motivation to show up every day as the best version of myself that I know how to. It is the motivation to work on myself - physically, mentally - because I can’t make the journey hurt less for others if I’m not taking care of myself on the way.

There is nothing inherently wrong with looking for another way to frame things, but I needed to provide another perspective. For many people I believe that rejecting “the end” can itself be a source of hurt, and for those people it may be more helpful to explore ways to process that feeling instead of attempting to replace it. You don’t get to grieve properly if you never get past the phase of denial.

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